So why is there different language for both?

You are back defending Zionism again what a surprise.

If you don’t know what all the mentioned CIA fronts are then it doesn’t.

Dropsite news you might have heard of them

Same. Most (tech) Youtubers love nothing more than fence sitting.

Did something happen today?

Oh for sure. Zohran has a lot of L’s lately but I’ll give him a W where it’s due.

Read your own comment back to yourself

I think Zohran got off the fence on this one. He didn’t do a single both-sides. He supports Iranians and condemns Israeli aggression.

Israel running another Lemmy ad campaign

The one JerryRigEverthing is reacting to. He visites their profile, took a screenshot of their location and added it in his reply.

I agree Twitter formatting can suck when people are quoted, but in this case it’s practically the exact same as on Lemmy

Bonus

Those country population will always be anti Israel there is always a chance that those regimes would be overthrown

Israel sold US military secrets to Russia and stole US nukes. Israel used to be British backed, then French backed, and now US backed. They are in no way a reliable military ally and we both know Israel will gladly switch sides to Russia or China if it ever becomes advantageous for them.

Middle eastern governments like Egypt don’t simply get overthrown because of their population hating Israel (would also be easier if Israel didn’t exist). Look at Egypt. The US instantly installed another puppet dictator and armed them to the brim. Same thing they do in every other Middle-Eastern country. It’s all actual puppets which actually listen to the US. In contrast to Israel which doesn’t care about what the US says.

The USA never cared about protecting the region the middle east. The USA strategy is ruling though chaos

Which is done through Wahabi groups from Saudi and the UAE which create ISIS offshoots. Not by Israel.

Even the major wars (which are often instigated by Israel) are not fought by Israel. See Iraq, Libya, and now Iran. What is Israel contributing here? America and NATO are fighting these wars. Israel was in no way necessary. The only thing Israel “contributes” here is blackmail and lobbying to get the US to bomb Iran. For… Israel.

Boeing, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon make a lot of money from Israel. For the $3.8 billion base grant in 2026, Israel is only permitted to spend roughly $250 million domestically Your link confirm what I said Israel’s armaments independence being a goal means that right now it is not

Ukraine got $188 billion already. Israel is peanuts compared to Ukraine. Israel also has an arms industry which is competing with the US and taking their contracts.

The USA policy was always letting Israel expands settlements discreetly. What I am talking about is official annexation which would mean the PA will be abolished and israel would declare sovereignty on the whole area.

Yeah they basically did that.

There will always be minor advantages for the USA to point to but in reality all the signs point to Israel and AIPAC controlling US politicians to do Israel’s bidding when it comes to middle-eastern foreign policy.

I recommend this GDF video on the matter, I’ve timestamped it on an interesting point but the entire thing is worth a watch https://youtu.be/1ox-DzSF7Tg?t=1641

Why benefiting from one war when you can benefits for multiple

Israel is making the US MIC peanuts compared to Ukraine. Israel is also wasting massive amounts of the US interceptor stockpile to the points the US cut the 12 day war short because it was getting very low. Whereas Ukraine is expandable to the US (which is weird because they’re so close to Russia so according to realpolitik the US should see them as very important) we all know that the US would do anything to save Israel, in a region filled to the brim with US backed dictators.

The whole west agree with all American foreign policies how attacking Iran would ruin anything in the liberal world order?

Attacking Iran could destroy the global economy with soaring oil prices and everyone is going along with it. We both know who has been pushing the US to bomb Iran for 30 years. In the words of the man himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW8TxOwYte0

After the attack the USA promised more investment and defense cooperation with Qatar

Qatar finalized an already ongoing deal deal with the US but they now looking at into Chinese and Turkish alternatives for planes and interceptors.

Nothing is free. If it help counter China and Russia interests then from an American imperialism perspective it is totally worth it

Actually it is free. Ukraine and other countries get forced into taking US loans. Israel literally gets everything for free. Also it doesn’t protect the region at all. Stuff like the overthrowing of Assad using Saudi proxies was done without Israel. Saudi, Jordan, Egypt and UAE are far better lapdogs for the US in the region.The US also has like 100 military bases in every country region already. (Except of course inside Israel which wants to stay independent of the US)

Major military projects are co-funded by the USA and Israel

But they’re not. They are funded by the USA. Israel even gets the free money as a lump sum at the start of the year (the amount of Israeli exceptions to every US rule is crazy) and then Israel loans it back to the US so the US pays interest over their own money. Then they do stuff like this “Israel’s armaments independence must become a national goal”

If true what Netenyahu is waiting to force Trump to allow official annexation of the west bank with the files?

He just did that last week lmao. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg5x2l3v0qo

Small cutbacks exist everywhere but the point of imperialism is to steal something. Yes endless wars are fun for the MIC but if they wanted free money they could send those weapons to Ukraine and look like the good guys instead of destroying the entire sham liberal world order charade they spent decades building up.

Once again, nobody will ever be able to explain why Israel was allowed to bomb Qatar, which is basically fully subscribed to US weapons and protections so this would never happen. Israel on the other hand isn’t like other countries in the region. Israel gets free US money. And they are even allowed to spend the US weapons money on their own weapons instead of the American MIC. This destroys the argument that this is all about maximizing profits for the American MIC.

Of course we also need to ignore Epstein, AIPAC and all the other Zionist lobbies for the argument of “realpolitk” to make sense.

American imperialism has been fully hijacked and infiltrated. American imperialism in the Middle East hasn’t served American interests since the 2000’s. Should have been blatantly obvious to anyone when Israel bombed Qatar.

At some point leftists are going to have to swallow that there is no American geopolitical interest and the only reason Trump is threatening to blow up oil prices worldwide during an incredibly precarious time for the US and global economy is Israel.

There is no realpolitik. There is only Israel.

So is this mask off Zioran?

Bro good point Iran should overthrow the US regime.