• crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 days ago

    I’m telling you otherwise. How else do you think the government is going to ban teens from social media without determining who is and isn’t a teen?

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      6 days ago

      …by banning teens from social media. Laws don’t require constant surveillance to be enacted as laws. I don’t have a fucking video camera in my car to make sure I’m following seat belt laws. Make no mistake, real-ID laws have nothing to do with keeping children safe, it’s entirely about mass surveillance. We don’t need mass surveillance to enfoce this law. Big tech claims they have ai models that can identify if you’re a teenager or not. Why the fuck should we as a society give up additional rights when these companies are more than capable of addressing the issue on their own?

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        6 days ago

        Do you really think tech companies are creating age verification software that isn’t harvesting that data for mass surveillance? If your car was made in the past few years, then yeah, it does monitor your seat belt usage (among plenty of other things) and sends that data off to who-knows-where.

        The idea of banning social media for teens, at the government level, doesn’t have anything to do with keeping them safe either. Look back through the past few decades of bills that claimed to be about “protecting the children” and see all the draconian shit built into them.

        It’s becoming more and more obvious that we can’t make laws in America without tailoring them to special interest groups and baking in exploitable workarounds. And it’s obvious that these huge companies don’t give a shit about safety and privacy so long as someone out there is willing to buy the data. So don’t try to say the government has our best interests in mind and the tech companies will play nice.

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          No, but the fact that they’re doing it already means we don’t need to ID-gate content.

          If your car was made in the past few years

          It wasn’t.

          So don’t try to say the government has our best interests in mind and the tech companies will play nice.

          I didn’t say that at all. Not sure why you feel the need to make things up.

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            You’re right, we don’t need to ID-gate anything, but that doesn’t mean we should trust the companies’ implementation. Just look at what’s happening with Discord.

            If you’re supporting actual legislation for banning teens from social media at this point, and you think tech companies aren’t selling off age verification data to surveillance capitalists, then yeah, that’s what you’re saying.

            BTW, I really hope your car lasts as long as possible, and/or you don’t have to get another one anytime soon. Car manufacturers are tracking literally everything you do, because they also “care about safety.”