Showing genuine interest and caring about another person may get you a partner, who’d have thought it ~
“My girlfriend is also my best friend” is a thing you see often in healthy relationships.
I do wonder if the “strsngers online” part didn’t help.
You get, I dunno, call them the most popular/attractive women, who attract random compliments. Constantly getting strangers telling them “you’re pretty.” Coupoe with the actual weirdos sending them DMs like “Show me your feet,” and that maked the woman bitter and jaded so even basic compliments start to get (justifiably) negative back, even if its “You’re pretty” or even lesser comments (say, “I like your art”).
Then those guys start to equate this behavior to every woman, including real life. Especially as it also starts to morph a bit on the women’s side into “Dudes are all creeps.”
And I am not trying to blame either men nor women here, just that it becomes its own toxic snowball that results in incels.
This also isn’t helped by the 90-2000s epidemic of Movie and TV stereotypes in teen movies. Only hot jocks and cheerleaders are acceptable and nerds are ugly and terrible people.
Also the theme from the time that you’d get the girl by harassing her until she caved.
But I’m not in a position to talk. I had to harass my wife a bit because she’s just like me and forgets to respond to messages. But it was more like, “it’s been a few days since she responded. I’ll try once more and if I don’t get an answer, I’ll move on.”
The real answer is that only works sometimes. Different girls like different things, and no matter how hot or nice or cool or rich you are, some girls will just not be into you. Women are individuals, it’s not a hard concept.
People who recommend negging are evil.
People who recommend looksmaxxing are quite morally questionable because they’re trying to turn dating into a socially darwinistic battle royale, which i guess is in response to the proliferation of dating apps, which they perceive as a socially darwinistic battle royale, in roughly their own words. They also outright lie - no, not everyone likes hunter eyes or sunken cheekbones, tallness, even skinniness, or bulky muscles. This feels like a war against human diversity. And in many cases they pretend these looksmaxxed features just naturally appear when you lead the perfect masculine routine of icebaths, red meat meals and frequent workouts. Which is a lie. (I think stuff like this is why there are articles saying ‘exercise culture is fascist’)
But back to negging: not only is this encouraged by a plurality of random young people online, but it’s weirdly also pushed hard by hollywood & american television - anyone else noticed that?
And negging is ALSO endorsed by, that’s right, none other than Jeffrey Epstein. He had a bunch pf emails going “wow, dude, your negging advice totally works! She wants me more than ever!” So yes, it’s safe to say it’s actually evil. Part and parcel of training people to objectify their partners (so is looksmaxxing, because to objectify yourself usually causes you to objectify your partner)
Rant over.
I think stuff like this is why there are articles saying ‘exercise culture is fascist’
Probably plays a part of it, but the main reason why is because fascism has always been obsessed with aesthetics, individualism, and the concept of übermenschen. Much of our modern health & wellness industry is focused more on aesthetics than actual health outcomes. A lot of it can be traced directly back to the eugenics movement in the 1920s.
Shit, probably the best dating perspective on this greentext community in a long time.
A LOT of guys here would pretty much say “Yea, it’s bad, but that’s just how human brains work, we are wired a certain way, heard mentality, blah blah blah.” and that shit does not sound right. Glad you are combating that
Also yea, fuck negging
A LOT of guys here would pretty much say “Yea, it’s bad, but that’s just how human brains work, we are wired a certain way, heard mentality, blah blah blah.” and that shit does not sound right. Glad you are combating that
What I never get about this is…does not your very existence refute this argument? If you’re a 20-something male and convinced that your genetics just doom you forever to celibacy…how exactly do you explain your own existence? Unless you are the result of a rape, you, by definition, have the genes necessary to attract a partner. After all, everyone in your family line prior to you managed to do it. If your genes were so incredibly bad that literally no one would want you as a partner, then your parents would have never gotten together, and you wouldn’t exist.
No one springs forth fully formed from the brow of Zeus. The very existence of an incel disproves incel theology.
what if the whole thing of turning insecure and mentally challenged men into the worst they could be was an elaborate ruse form the start ? to reduce the amount of competition
It is an elaborate ruse. But not to reduce competition, it’s to just turn young men into angry unstable individuals which can be used for nefarious purposes. We have literal evidence of it happening with Gamergate and there’s some evidence those young men may have just helped get Donald Trump elected in his first term.
When people are angry and lonely they can be easily coopted for stuff, you just offer them a community and an outlet for their rage and they are yours to do as you want.
