They killed “Vote blue no matter who.” when they failed to line up behind Mamdani. If it has to be Newsom or Vance, I’ll vote for Vance. Not expecting better of the Democrats will do far more harm in the long run.
Is it really? I think we’d be a hell of a lot better off today if Trump won in 2020 instead of 2024. I also think we’d be better off if George Bush Sr. beat Clinton in 1992. The wrong Democrat is far more damaging in the long term than any Republican.
Strategically, politically, and economically is what I was talking about. the dark folks puppeting the GOP and trump we caught off guard last time. Now they ere prepared and are making huge plays that destabilize and put the US into inexorable decline. This one wasn’t one we come back from.
Now, that said, your point of view is something I did make assumptions about. If you mean just for the average citizen over the next few years, maybe a decade…then yeah, it should be okish. I wouldn’t be hopeful, but it isn’t end of days stuff yet. Also, if you position is as someone external to the US, then yeah, the ultimate fall of the US is absolutely a wonderful thing as larger external muntinational groups are forming in preparation for such a fall and to become self-reliant. The EU has a lot to gain from this collapse.
So, in a way, you are right.
Strategically, voting in the wrong Democrats is what enabled the Republicans to do all of that. The US was in decline long before this batch of Republicans, and the Clintons had a lot to do with it.
Gavin Newsom believes in nothing. I honestly don’t see any reason to believe he would govern any differently than Vance. He’s nothing but a political opportunist, and the opportunities he seems drawn to are all coming from the right. Having Vance in office would fire up progressive resistance. Newsom would drive progressives to despair.
it sounds insane. better don’t vote or vote for independent candidate. dems are right-center party, which is pretty shitty, but they’re not fascists. maga dreams about making lgbt+ illegal and literally put people in concentration camps, like it had happened in Russia not so long ago. whatever dems would do, they wouldn’t take your basic human rights.
but i would actually recommend you to move from US to Europe
Republicans are liberal fascists, and (establishment) Democrats are fascist liberals. The only domestic policy that would really be different if Schumer were President instead of Trump is that Schumer would make it look legit. Foreign policy would be better, except in regards to Israel. We desperately need to move away from the Schumer wing, and I think Newsom would be worse.
Democrats have been eroding away my “basic human rights” since at least when Clinton took office. Trump wouldn’t be nearly as bad as he is without systems put in place for him by Democrats. Obama greatly expanded executive power and mass surveillance. Obama and Clinton both wed the Democratic party to Wall Street which is the literal root of fascism. (Fascism binds economic and political power systems).
Again and again Democrats have backed the militarization of police and the expansion of the private prison system. (Credit to Biden for breaking the private prison trend, but don’t look for that from Newsom).
If Newsom is our next President, he will absolutely be followed by a Republican who will be even worse than Trump. I said the same about Biden in 2020, and look what happened.
The most important front for fighting fascism in America today is making damn sure the next Democratic nominee is nothing like Newsom. Id he wins the nomination, the war is lost. It really won’t matter if he wins or not.
Sorry, I don’t understand what you’re talking about. Schumer would not allow ICE do what they do now (yes, I know that ICE existed before and illegal deportations were happening before, but not in such scale and such aggression, it’s incomparable). Nowadays any hispanic person, citizen or not, cannot feel safe outside and even inside their homes.
You folks just need more than two parties. If Newsome gets nominated, left-wing Dems should break away and organize a new party. Moderate conservatives would probably too, considering how trump’s ratings flop. Then your people would finally have a choice
They killed “Vote blue no matter who.” when they failed to line up behind Mamdani. If it has to be Newsom or Vance, I’ll vote for Vance. Not expecting better of the Democrats will do far more harm in the long run.
That’s a pretty insane take given reality and observable facts.
Is it really? I think we’d be a hell of a lot better off today if Trump won in 2020 instead of 2024. I also think we’d be better off if George Bush Sr. beat Clinton in 1992. The wrong Democrat is far more damaging in the long term than any Republican.
Strategically, politically, and economically is what I was talking about. the dark folks puppeting the GOP and trump we caught off guard last time. Now they ere prepared and are making huge plays that destabilize and put the US into inexorable decline. This one wasn’t one we come back from. Now, that said, your point of view is something I did make assumptions about. If you mean just for the average citizen over the next few years, maybe a decade…then yeah, it should be okish. I wouldn’t be hopeful, but it isn’t end of days stuff yet. Also, if you position is as someone external to the US, then yeah, the ultimate fall of the US is absolutely a wonderful thing as larger external muntinational groups are forming in preparation for such a fall and to become self-reliant. The EU has a lot to gain from this collapse. So, in a way, you are right.
Strategically, voting in the wrong Democrats is what enabled the Republicans to do all of that. The US was in decline long before this batch of Republicans, and the Clintons had a lot to do with it.
Gavin Newsom believes in nothing. I honestly don’t see any reason to believe he would govern any differently than Vance. He’s nothing but a political opportunist, and the opportunities he seems drawn to are all coming from the right. Having Vance in office would fire up progressive resistance. Newsom would drive progressives to despair.
it sounds insane. better don’t vote or vote for independent candidate. dems are right-center party, which is pretty shitty, but they’re not fascists. maga dreams about making lgbt+ illegal and literally put people in concentration camps, like it had happened in Russia not so long ago. whatever dems would do, they wouldn’t take your basic human rights.
but i would actually recommend you to move from US to Europe
Republicans are liberal fascists, and (establishment) Democrats are fascist liberals. The only domestic policy that would really be different if Schumer were President instead of Trump is that Schumer would make it look legit. Foreign policy would be better, except in regards to Israel. We desperately need to move away from the Schumer wing, and I think Newsom would be worse.
Democrats have been eroding away my “basic human rights” since at least when Clinton took office. Trump wouldn’t be nearly as bad as he is without systems put in place for him by Democrats. Obama greatly expanded executive power and mass surveillance. Obama and Clinton both wed the Democratic party to Wall Street which is the literal root of fascism. (Fascism binds economic and political power systems).
Again and again Democrats have backed the militarization of police and the expansion of the private prison system. (Credit to Biden for breaking the private prison trend, but don’t look for that from Newsom).
If Newsom is our next President, he will absolutely be followed by a Republican who will be even worse than Trump. I said the same about Biden in 2020, and look what happened.
The most important front for fighting fascism in America today is making damn sure the next Democratic nominee is nothing like Newsom. Id he wins the nomination, the war is lost. It really won’t matter if he wins or not.
Sorry, I don’t understand what you’re talking about. Schumer would not allow ICE do what they do now (yes, I know that ICE existed before and illegal deportations were happening before, but not in such scale and such aggression, it’s incomparable). Nowadays any hispanic person, citizen or not, cannot feel safe outside and even inside their homes. You folks just need more than two parties. If Newsome gets nominated, left-wing Dems should break away and organize a new party. Moderate conservatives would probably too, considering how trump’s ratings flop. Then your people would finally have a choice